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I do not envy them. It is really hard to draw the line on these things. Like, we I even as crypto people who, like, spend all of our time looking at the stuff, it's really hard to draw the line. Yeah. It it really, really is. But I I think that's where we need to go is, like, you need to set some reasonable bounds here so so that people can start abiding by them. Because I I do I don't think it is good for the space that, you know, you can just launch a, like, one of one upgradable contract, which is, like, oh, it's decentralized, but, like, I could take your money out of it. A
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Hey, guys. Welcome back to another episode of Xerox Research. We're here at permissionless. I've got my cohost, Boccaccio. We've got John Charbonneau and Carlos from the research team. How are you guys doing today? Are you enjoying the conference? Great.
I'm doing great. How about you guys? It's,
like, 20 degrees cooler than yesterday, so I'm doing way better than yesterday. Yeah. It
was.
We were we've been sweating out here past few days. You didn't show up till today? Did you skip the past few days? You I
didn't make it the first day. I was here yesterday when it was just, like, super, super hot. And then today, which is not great.
Sweltering. Any any big takeaways from from the other day or, you know, just
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