Are The AI Labs Getting Nationalized?
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Like, I have some AI friends who are prepared to have a Los Alamos style lockdown. They expect the US government to, fully control them within three years. When you think about, the most critical national defense projects The US has ever had with the, nuclear project, we literally we put all of our nuclear scientists in the desert, and we spied on them. We wouldn't let them leave. They couldn't make phone calls, right, when we treated it like a military project. AI is that. Mythos is a military project, and US government may start approaching it that way and say, oh, you're a top engineer on,
Alright, guys. Welcome back to another really fun episode of a thousand x. I think this is gonna be a good one. With me today, I have Ari Paul, who actually is my former boss, founder of Blocktower, which was one of the greatest crypto hedge funds back in the, you know, 2017 to 2023 era. And I'm just super excited. I've known Ari as probably one of the most thoughtful people that I've ever encountered, has great takes on a variety of different topics, can go deep, can go wide, and is always a really fun conversation. So thank you, Ari, for joining me on this call. It's kind of kind of it's kin
Totally. And, know, same compliments to yourself. I'm excited to be chatting with you. We we catch up some, you know, somewhere regularly, and they're always fascinating combos. And it's not a shock to me and that as long as I've known you, Avi, from almost immediately, had a sense that just that, similarly, you were a very thoughtful person, and we'd likely have interesting interactions regardless of the local professional context. So it's been interesting following your career path and excited for what you're what you're working on now.
No. I I I I appreciate it. And I kind of wanna start because I think our audience will find it interesting, you know, where you started in crypto, how you got into it, and what really drew you to the industry because I think you were drawn to it in a way that was both similar and also different than other people. And then we can get into, you know, what's happening now in the world and whether you think that that vision that you originally came into crypto with still pans out today or if it looks different to you.
Yeah. You know, it's funny. Like, I I did so much of the podcast circuit in, like, 2017, 2018, and then not much last for a year. So, like, back then, I I I was always asked, like, what got you into crypto? And I would give kind of a a pretty similar answer every time, which was partly the the angle that was maybe not unique for me, but differentiated from most crypto people at the time was that I was a little bit more further along the career path on the finance side. There weren't that many kind of 30 year old finance people entering crypto prior to kind of March 2017. And so that investment
But No. I think I think it's good. There's there's one thing that you hit on in the beginning that I wanna dive into because I think it's really important is and you've written about this before, but it's a it's the concept of of table selection and why why crypto. And maybe talk about, you know, like, what what you saw, like, what was so inefficient about crypto at the time that maybe some examples where you're like, oh, wow. This we can really take advantage of this. Yeah. We can come in. And whether that's that you thought that people were just massively mispricing some of the the future va
You know, this is bringing me back. I haven't thought too much about this in the last year. That's fun. So there were a lot. So in in I m
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