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You know, how do you create value? What what is finance? How do you create value with trading and markets? There's someone who wants to be risk averse with an asset that they have. They're willing to give edge to secure the bag. That's always the case. So there's always money to be made by founders who are, like, shareholders that have all their money in the company they founded. They wanna sell it. They wanna IPO it. And there's just, like, meat on the bone for everybody to eat. There's the banker who's gonna make money. It's the guy who's gonna buy it. And why are they giving up all this mon
Today, are interviewing Jordy, who is the founder of Cellini, one of the sharpest minds in the space. I've known Jordy for a long time. We've been in a ton of trades together, and he always has interesting things to say. And most importantly, we're filming this at his conference, the Salini Summit. Oh, okay. You know what? This is this is phenomenal. We are actually in con right now at the Salini Summit, which is an amazing conference that Salini Jordi puts on every year. And, it is just in the most beautiful setting. We're currently in the Carleton Hotel. Thank you for joining me, and thank y
You know, as proper vampires, even though it's nice and sunny outside, we're all inside, so it's okay.
We are quite literally in a dark room. The only like, it might seem like it's light, but that's just because we have all this professional lighting around us. Yeah. We we're neat at the end of the day. Mhmm. So, like, why go outside?
No. We'll go later. We'll go later. We'll go
we we got some fun stuff planned. Right?
Yeah. What what's been, like, the most crazy thing you've heard today?
I don't know. Like, I actually think maybe the most fun thing that I've heard is we interviewed Alex Goode. Yeah. And he was talking about his time over at Palantir, and he basically gave us the blueprint for how Palantir found Osama bin Laden, which is kind of fun. And I think that was pretty cool. It has absolutely nothing to do with markets. In fact, he actually transitioned into saying that Palantir is probably a short at these prices. But, like, I don't know. Jordy, I mean, what what have you found most fun or interesting from the talks, from the people, from what's going on at this confe
You know, the quality of the people left in this space has has gone up because there's just such a washout happening of all the lower tier people. I think they they can't even get funded now. So that's the most positive thing. It's just there's a big filter. The great filter is underway. And I think that's what's really gonna create a foundation because the reality is over the last years, it's just been one kind of terrible idea after another with bad founders and bad ethics. And I think now the only things that are getting funded, because the only people who have money left are the ones that
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