Exiled Iranian Prince Reza Pahlavi: Transition Plan and the Fight for Iran's Freedom
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Alright, everybody. Welcome back to part two of the all in podcast episode 263. We promised you a part two because we are very lucky that my dear friend, Sharvin Pishovar, was able to set up a very important historic interview for us today. None other than prince Reza Pallavi is here, and we have a limited amount of time with you, Reza. And may I call you Reza, or should I call you prince Reza?
Fine. Thank you. Thanks for driving me on your program.
It it's great to have you. And this is a moment I think you've been waiting forty seven, close to fifty years for, which is we are, at this moment in time, looking at potentially the people of Iran being free. You left the country in when you were 17 years old to become a pilot, and now you are looking to help your people with the transition post this military activity, this operation, essentially a war that's going on right now that we all hope gets resolved quickly, I think people would love to know what is your vision for Iran post this military action.
Well, thank you again for the opportunity. Before I get into that, I wanted to simply stress the importance of this intervention that to us was like a rescue mission. It was literally a humanitarian intervention to protect more lives than would otherwise be lost under this extremely brutal and repressive regime that, as you know, has massacred as of late tens of thousands of innocent and unarmed citizens. In order to equalize the playing field, this was a much needed intervention that a lot of Iranians asked for, and fortunately it did happen. But what's the next step? Where are we headed to?
And when your father was in charge, it was a monarchy, turned into a dictatorship. And to be clear, the hope now is to evolve into a democracy with free elections for the people, average age of people in Iran now, early thirties, 31, 32 years old. What would that look like? What is a possible timeline? And you are have said on other programs and and on your YouTube channel, which I suggest everybody go search for and follow right now because you're speaking directly to the people on x and on your YouTube channel. What what is the condition on the ground from the people you're talking to? You s
Well, I think that now the playing field has been equalized, meaning that the people could finally, of course, awaiting the end of this campaign, have a better opportunity to reengage the streets and take over their homeland. Of course, part of the equation is how much implosion from within the regime and how much defections from the regime in the sense of joining with the people this time and not be an instrument that will halt the people's progress, but instead help the people in that transition, meaning whether people are in the military or security forces as well as the civilian bureaucrac
So you've spoken about wanting to be on the ground there. What conditions and what timeline do you have for yourself? And this seems like a a pretty high risk thing to do. It'd be pretty brave of you to go to the country now. What conditions have to be met for you to go to Iran to go home for the first time in forty seven years? And how close do you think we are to the people taking the streets now and for starting this transition?
Well, to be honest with you, it's very difficult to put an exact timeline. Factors that will expedite it is the level of separation from the regime, the level of defections, the strengthening of domestic organizations and structure, how can we partner with elements from within that are not joining this campaign. All of these are factors that will co
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