Senator Ron Johnson on the Senate showdown over Trump's Big Beautiful Bill | All-In Interview
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Power corrupts. Government is power, and it's been corrupted. Nobody knew in total how much we spend because we never even talk about it. The first goal of this Republican budget reconciliation should be don't add to the deficit. I voted for president Trump because I wanted him to defeat the deep state. Yep. You don't defeat the deep state by continuing to fund it, it binds levels. Our base is gonna go, what why did we elect you guys? You're really no better than Democrats. I don't think president Trump, he's not focused on reducing spending. This is our one opportunity, and right now we're bl
So everyone has assumed that the house passage of the reconciliation bill is gonna go to the senate with some minor changes and then make its way to president Trump's desk for signing, but that may not be the case. There are several hardliners in the US Senate who have made it very clear that the budget and the fiscal deficit problems that arise from this bill are insurmountable and they're going to take a very hard stance on voting no on this bill. Taking the lead on that point of view is Senator Johnson from Wisconsin who's gonna join us today for an emergency pod to talk about what's next w
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Senator, thanks for joining Chamathin, for this conversation this morning.
Good morning, guys, and thanks for having me on.
And just by way of background, senator, you were elected to the US senate in 2010. You've had two reelection since then. More recently, we've taken notice, and I gave a shout out to you for your comments on the scaling of the deficit and The US federal debt. Again, as a Republican against the stated intention of getting this bill passed and through the Senate as is and we'd love to kind of hear from you today about your points of view on the bill that was passed in the House this week fiscal picture for The United States and where things are headed. So thanks for that and thanks for joining us
Sure. Let let me start. You talked about when I first ran for election in 02/2010, I was running out of the Tea Party. Never been involved in politics whatsoever and didn't even decide to, run until the April, announced in May, started campaign during the summer, did all those parades. My what I would shout during the parades was, this is a fight for freedom. We're mortgaging our children's future. It's wrong. It's immoral. It has to stop. That that was my campaign theme in 02/2010. I still view myself, more Tea Party than Republican Party. We we have a lot of big spenders in the republic Repu
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