LIMITLESS: U.S. vs China's Race to Superintelligence | Jeremie & Edouard Harris
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Hey, everyone. Brian here. You guys are in for a treat today? The episode you're about to hear was pulled from our new limitless podcast where I occasionally guest host as I did today along with David and our new cohost, Josh. We've talked before about the geopolitical race between The US and China for the world's reserve currency status, but there's another race taking place, one that's moving faster with more urgency, may even be more important, and that's the AI race. The question for today, who's going to win the AI wars? Is it The US or China? This is an incredible episode. Two guests who
Oh, wow. Okay. That'll just take thirty seconds. I mean, that it well, it depends. It depends. But it depends in interesting ways. So there are different dimensions of the AI race. One way you can split it up is supply chain wise. Right? You look at the whole AI supply chain, what goes into training a leading AI model where there's talent. Right? That's one big input. In that respect, there's a bit of fog of war around who exactly is where, especially on the Chinese side. But judging by the kinds of engineering advances that go into making your DeepSeq r one, your QEN three, there are very, ve
Yeah. So that's the thing about winning. Under current conditions, winning is kind of not really winning because we can be the first to develop the technology. But from everything that we've seen and heard and all the folks that we've spoken to who are tracking this space closely, it just gets I mean, they're already all up in our systems at the moment. And so there is a massive security push that's necessary for wanting to be meaningful. And that's before you even get to the question of, well, you build an AGI or or you build a superintelligence. How do you control it? And does that like, wha
Right. Right. Right. I mean, superintelligence aside because there could be, like, a third actor in this The US and China and then the superintelligence with its own ambitions, of course. But I'm I'm sticking to the kind of the The US and China. We wanna get to the scoreboard and and break these out in each of their different categories and dimensions because there's the labs, you know, the software side of things. There's the hardware. There's the energy. There's even kind of the the culture of The US versus China, and I think there's scoreboards associated with each of those. But before we g
Well, certainly, there's an economic race. I think that's, you know, reasonably obvious to everyone even within The United States. The labs themselves have said this. We are in a race. You know, we wish everyone else wasn't racing so hard, but, obviously, when you're in that when you're in that space
That's that's something, by the way, that that Sam Altman once said to us directly. Like, we were like, hey. So, you know, it seems like you guys don't have the security, you know, the safety stuff in place for where things might be going. And so, like, you know, what what's what's your take? And he's like, I wish Google wouldn't race us so hard. He's
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