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I'm so excited about today's episode. We are joined by Christina Kaplan and Samia Ahmed, who both lead memory and personalization at OpenAI. Samia, Christina, welcome.
Thank you. So excited to be here today.
Okay. You are both solely responsible for creating the most valuable moat that's ever been discovered in AI, memory and personalization. In fact, I remember the very moment you guys released the memory feature because five seconds before that, I was ranting to my friend about how annoying it was that ChatGPT had no recollection of who I am when I opened a new chat. And it was like this light bulb moment went off where I stopped viewing ChatGPT as this tool and more of a friend, and that's an incredibly sticky product experience. But I wanna hear about it from your side. What was it like to dev
I think thanks for the the generous introduction there, Jaz. I think we probably would classify it slightly different. And, you know, to be totally candid, memory in ChatGubiti predates both Christina and me joining the team. I can, if you like, rewind all the way back to 2022, ChatGubiti comes out. I'll And give you a little bit of a an analogy here that I think is, like, truly opt way of how we think about it. And 2022, sort of like, imagine you had an assistant in the room. You walked in. You asked a question, it and answered natural language. And this is the first time you've seen a comput
Yeah. So the latest variation of memory, like, we had a assistant, a person that had a notebook with information about you, but still very limited, like, might understand your name, but doesn't really understand you or who you are or really can't carry a conversation from new conversation to new conversation. So the enhanced the update to memory that we launched in April was really trying to bring a more natural memory to Chatuchi BT. So taking this, like, person with, you know, Memento style tattoos to be like a real person that remembers you, that can, like, pick up a conversation from where
Yeah. And that's when I think, you know, that released early April. I mean, that's funnily enough how, you know, we've we we got in touch because we'd listened to, I think, a podcast you've done on this.
Mhmm. Yeah. Yeah.
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