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Welcome to Bankless, where we explore the frontier of private Internet money and Internet finance. This is Ryan Sean Adams, just me today, so I'm here to help you become more bankless. There's been this recent refrain in crypto. It's almost rings out like a complaint. Where have all the cipherpunks gone? I'm pleased to say I have two of them on today's episode, and, honestly, talking to them was like a breath of fresh air. The promise of their project, Aztec, is to bring privacy to Ethereum without cutting any corners. They're trying to ship a private layer too that truly extends Ethereum grad
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Zach, Joe, welcome to Bankless today.
Thank you so much for having us on.
Thanks so much for having us.
Really excited about this. So it's been five years almost since we've had you on Bankless. This is actually a screenshot from a a very young baby face looking David, I think, from one of his one of the many places he's lived around the world and the two of you guys from five years ago, four months or four four years and eight months ago. I guess starting the question out, what have you guys been doing over the past five years?
Well, I guess the the the obvious one is I've regrind some hair, and this was in the depths of in the depths of COVID, I think. And, yeah, we we we, we kind of hadn't seen each other or the team for a while, so we all went a bit crazy in The UK in in COVID. But apart from that, we've we've been kind of chipping away and bringing bringing privacy to Ethereum. So I think since we since we last spoke, we we had a roll up on Ethereum called Astec Connect, and we've now built a brand new version of that that brings, you know, fully programmable privacy to Ethereum. And it launched its Ignition chai
So, Zach, how do you explain your hair situation back when it was all COVID? And, you know, how things,
yeah, got completely different. Joe and I, we took the opposite approach. Joe was like, I'll cut my own hair. I was like, I won't bother cutting my hair. And, yeah, you know, I was going on research benders back then trying to figure out how to, like, fix certain existential issues with with privacy tech. So I don't know. Maybe the hair helped the channeling channeling Albert Einstein.
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