Will The Ethereum Economic Zone (EEZ) Rebuild $ETH Dominance? | Gnosis Martin Koppelman & Friederike Ernst
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Bankless Nation, I'm joined by Martin Koppelman from Gnosis. Martin, welcome back to Bankless.
Thanks for having me.
And we are also joined, first time on the podcast, long time coming, Frederique Ernst. Frederique, welcome to Bankless.
Thank you.
We are talking to you guys because something cool is happening over in your guys' neck of the woods. This was a presentation that Frederique, you released at ETCC alongside Jordi Bellina from from Zisk. And I wanna learn more about it because this has been kind of the the subject of Ethereum, the main arc of Ethereum. And maybe this main quest line of Ethereum has a few next steps that you guys think we should take. Frederic, I I'll throw this question to you since you were the one who presented this topic. We're talking about the what you guys have dubbed the Ethereum Economic Zone. Love the
I think it's become resurrected. So kind of I do agree that it's been pretty dead for a while. So kind of the idea that kind of you, you should be able to compose from different domains of Ethereum seamlessly. Has been sidelined for the last couple of years. Kind of just, just as a reminder, kind of it wasn't sidelined for no reason. Was sidelined so we could solve scalability. So kind of like before we actually had any L2s and shards and whatsoever, Ethereum composed marvelously, right, kind of like when there was just one Ethereum, we didn't have these problems. And we, but we kind of we end
Now, Martin, I remember two years ago, a year and a half ago, at DevCon Bangkok, you talked about native roll ups, and it seemed very parallel similar to what we are talking about with the Ethereum Economic Zone, talking about a number of different chains being able to talk to each other synchronously, share a lot of the state of Ethereum, Is what we are talking about today, what you guys release at ETC, the Ethereum Economic Zone, how is this like downstream of the effort of native roll ups relate? How how does these two things couple together?
Yeah. I mean, first one is the term got a little bit overloaded. So, so others are using it in a different way, saying native rollups are rollups that have some specific precompile that kind of, proves the correctness or where where it's more natively proven the where you don't have a separate proof system, but kind of that is supported natively by by by Ethereum. What I was trying to yeah. I was already trying to describe this kind of vision one and a half years ago, although then, yeah, real time proving was not wasn't clear that this would, yeah, would be possible or how how fast this would
So there was buried in there, you said real time proving. Is that why we're going to be talking about this subject today and not like a year ago or two years ago? There is a specific technology that has been unlocked. ZK technology has progressed incredibly fast, faster than most people I think in the industry really ever anticipated. And that's why we are able to talk about the subject today, the Ethereum Economic Zone, because there was a tech unlock with real time proving. Is that correct?
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