Solving Ethereum’s UX Challenges | Hart & Dan
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What do we want? We want the ability where I click a button and an action happens on another chain. And so that button click, if that action on another chain let's simplify it and say that action is I just need to get one ETH to the other chain. The traditional, like, classic kind of way you think of a bridge is send money on chain a to some contract, wait for finality on chain a, send message to chain b, release funds. That's, like, the kinda classic bridge architecture. And the biggest problem with that in my mind is speed. Like, you're waiting for finality on the origin chain.
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Mike.
Thanks for having us back on.
This is great. This is a callback to the original the original episode that we actually did Dan during the season on Dexus where we had Hart on. So this is gonna be a fun callback to that episode. We're gonna be talking about some interoperability themes. That was actually the episode heart that you and I met on. And, like, this heart guy is actually pretty cool, and I literally called you cold after that. It's like, hey, dude. I know we met that one time on that podcast, but you wanna host the season with me? Yeah.
I was honestly, Mike, I was surprised I was surprised by that. I was like, what did I do? Right? But or or or our podcast cohost is in such a raw, rough job that, like, no one else is gonna do it. But
Yeah, dude. I was just yeah. I was giving you sharing you the load, but I was presenting it as, like, a a fun, fun thing that we could do together. But, alright, guys. I wanna so, obviously, the the meat of what I wanna cover is has to do with interoperability and this exciting announcement between this integration in between across and Uniswap. But before we get there, I wanna maybe start with just setting the scene in terms of where we're at in Ethereum writ large. Maybe, Hard, I could kick it over to you here. Where are we at this particular moment in time, and what are some of the technica
Yeah, Mike. I think there's a story I wanna tell, and I want, like, the this to be a broader Ethereum story. Zoom out. Go back, like, 4 years ago, and ETH had a scalability problem. Like, it just didn't scale. And everybody kinda knew this. It became very obvious in DeFi summer when transaction fees were, like, $300 to do a Uniswap swap. And it's like, okay. This doesn't work. We gotta scale this thing. And if y'all remember, right, the ecosystem, they tried a few different ideas, sharding and other stuff, and then we aligned on this roll up centric road map. We're gonna scale Ethereum through
I fully agree with that, and I I agree with Hart that the our solution the great Ethereum solution to, to scaling has given rise to this interoperability problem, that I think across and and others are working on. I also wanna add that I think it turned out that without us even knowing it, a lot of the work that we've been doing in Ethereum research, was actually preparing for this. And I think that's what I'm talking about here, of course, is decentraliz
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