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Pleasure. Thanks for having me.
Yeah. Now I know this goes back three years now because you were one of the very first people I asked to come on the show and you politely declined in large part because you didn't really wanna spill your secrets. So we're gonna get to some of that later. Why don't we start with just your personal background?
Okay, pretty humble background, normal pathway into college and graduate school, studied organizational behavior, conflict processes, and was teaching as a university professor for several years and got asked to do a lot of things while I was at the University of Illinois in Champaign Urbana. I got asked to do a lot of projects up in Chicago and one thing led to another. It started getting bigger and I started doing more things, had to hire a few people to help me with all the projects and lo and behold, I had to make a choice, came back to Philadelphia where I grew up, take care of an ailing
At what point in time did you start professionally coaching?
So when I was a professor at the University of Illinois, I started getting asked to do a lot of what became known as executive coaching. So nobody called it that back in the mid eighties to late eighties. And so I got asked to go in and understand executive presence and style and a variety of other things and help people move forward. I worked with some TV anchors. I worked with several very senior leaders who that was the thing that was in front of them. And then I got involved with all kinds of other coaching around how do I make better decisions? What do I do in order to build my team? How
So when you were first getting going, when someone introduced to you something new, say, oh, we want to figure out how to accelerate change in an organization. How did you figure out what to share?
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