Ep 15 - What intersubjectivity is, the future and risks of AVS's with Robert Drost head of EigenLayer Foundation
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Saurabh: Hi. This is the Deco podcast, and I'm your host, Saurabh. Before we begin, views expressed here are personal opinions. None of this is any kind of advice, let alone financial or legal. It's a conversation about things we find interesting.
Welcome to episode 50. Our guest today is Robert Frost, executive director and CEO of Icon Foundation. Since his Sun Microsystem days, Robert has experienced the evolution of web first app and brings rich context to the web 3 development app. We talk about how he got red build on web 3, his time at consensus and switch from investing to building, how Eigenlayer brings new primitives to crypto, and much more. To me, what stood out in this episode is how Robert breaks down complex concepts into consumable chunks.
Onto the episode now. Hello, Robert. Welcome to the show.
Robert: Hi. Thank you for having me.
Saurabh: I mean, I was curious about your background and how you got into crypto or how you started working with Iglotlair.
Robert: So I think in talking about how I got into Iglear, it's helpful to first have a little bit of context on why I came to crypto at all. And for myself, I've had a career in the web one and then the web two space, just in general and technology. My background, you know, kind of started off in industry with a PhD in electrical engineering and PhD minor in computer science as well. And worked in infrastructure companies in Silicon Valley. I worked, you know, at the hardware level for sure, but over time was increasingly at the software level where there was more and more impact that could b
So I had a lot of background on, you know, kind of moving towards like cloud scale infrastructure, so hardware systems, CPUs, storage systems, networking. And at a certain point even in my career, I set up and founded a, software defined networking company and did that for a number of years, which ended up having a large software footprint in the rollout of 5 g networks on the data center back end. So I have background also in high performance compute and in the AI space as well. Of course, that's always been interesting area that I'd kind of worked proximal to. So the reason that that all led
So we were moving towards having a lot of data capture. In fact, actually the Web2 model was capturing people's data, turning people into a product, and also putting a high friction for you to be able to leave spaces. So creating these walled gardens of data, walled gardens of identity. And in 2017, when I was wrapping up the startup, my decentralized software defined networking startup, I first learned in detail about how Ethereum was beyond just the money aspect of crypto, but was creating this incredible decentralized database that included computation and a little bit of storage that you c
I also had a long concern that I'd had over the last 10 years about how AI was moving so rapidly and that meant that you'd be able to extract almost infinite amounts of additional information out of the data that was being collected and warehoused in all of these Web2 companies. And I felt like that was kind of a final nail in the coffin of privacy really would be gone forever at that point. And so for me, I just saw blockchain as a way that we could reframe technology's relationship with humanity. Very ambitious. But, so I came into crypto not for the money aspect at all, but in fact, actuall
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