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Welcome to the Deco podcast, where we bring you stories from founders and investors in Web 3. Before we get started, this is not a financial or legal advice. It's just a conversation about things we find interesting in Web 3. Views expressed are our own personal opinions. The co members or guests appearing on the show may have positions on assets they talk about. Alright. The latest episode, probably the last one of the year that we are recording. We are here with none other than Shah, the creator of AI 16z DAO, the creator of the Eliza framework. Welcome to the social. Nice
to be here. Nice to have me.
You know, when we talk to people who have been in crypto for a long time, typically have similar set of backgrounds. Like, they were doing something related to tech or largely finance or investments, and all roads lead to Bitcoin, ETH, and all roads lead to Bitcoin, ETH, and SOL. But, yeah, I think the story here is something different. So, yeah, we just want to understand what your background is and through your lens, how AI space took off without crypto, and what has the overlap been like?
Yeah. I've been around web 3 for a long time. Well, a long you know, like, 2019, 2020. I've done a few, like, NFT projects and things. So not nearly as long as a lot of people in space, obviously. But I was really more on behind the scenes. Like, okay. I write solidity contracts, and I'm really into NFTs. And I was really into, like, metaverse really, really early on that stuff. But I didn't really get into, like, crypto Twitter or a lot of the more front facing culture or definitely, like, the thing that's kind of been happening for the the last few years. I just was more, like, you know, in
was that? That
was, like, at the beginning of this year. So, like, kinda Oh,
wow. Not that fun. Yeah. No.
No. No. You know, I was like, cool. I'm gonna do this kind of agent framework, and I will make a start up on it. And I I wasn't really, like I was like, do I really wanna grind out a start up, like, doing, like, agent dating app or friend making app? You know, I I like these kind of ideas. So I clicked on a few different things and, like, a lot of, like, smaller projects just to kind of develop the agent stuff. But very, like, nobody was paying attention. There was no traction. And I had this open source framework, and I was kinda chilling on it. So, basically, I was, like, very frustrated as
are a little bit of A little
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