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Alright, folks. Back on Empire. Took a little hiatus there. Back on Empire. Very excited about this. We're actually recording live from DAS, so hopefully this sounds alright. Looks good. Got the better looking guy than me, Dmitry Tokarev. What's going on, Dmitry?
Thank you for having me, man.
Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, I wanted to have Dmitry on because Dmitry is actually our first sponsor ever of our first DAS in May 2019. So Dmitry is the founder of was the founder of copper, raised, like, hundreds of millions of dollars
Yeah.
High valuation and big business, and now building Braun. So what's going on? How's life?
Life's been good, man. It's I I think a lot of founders can relate. We were just talking, you know, that we're roughly started businesses at the same time. You know, when you get smaller team, you execute faster. You you close it clients, to to products. You know, it's been very exciting. I think you're in a bit now, roughly building Braun. Yeah. And it's been fantastic experience. And and, you know, transition from COPPA was also Yeah. Pretty smooth.
Yeah. Good, man. Well, I wanna hear all about it. So we're So alright. We got DaaS behind us. Have 2,900 people here this year. What do you think about just like I don't know. I'd like, just yeah. I love your macro take on how the industry has evolved. And We started Blockworks December 2017. You were January 2018.
Yeah. Yeah. You know, I'd say the following. It it was the same thing in this May 2019 when we were the, you know, sponsors. I remember, you know, we put together $10.20 k or something of sponsorship fees. They're like, okay. We gotta make it count and everything because everybody's like, you know, really poor and and and have not raised at that time hundreds of millions of dollars, etcetera. And but, you know, theme was kind of always the same. The institutions are coming and and so on and so forth. Mean, we're sitting in Franklin Templeton booth right now. So, you know Thank you. Like, evide
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