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2025 is a line in the sand moment for the industry. I think where we are is kind of 2003, 2004 for the Internet. Like, boom, bust, rebirth. We're entering a twenty year bull market for the industry. There'll be some chop, whatever, but it is just a trend line up for the next twenty years. This episode is brought to you by Blockdaemon. You'll hear more about them later in today's episode. Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell any investments or products. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and the views expressed by anyone on the show are solely their opinions,
You know, in person always feels, like, much better. Like, I'm I'm really excited about this.
It's better? Yeah. Santi, how you doing?
I'm good, man.
What are doing in New York? Come to console me?
I I I I did. As a matter of fact, ladies and gentlemen, we've been doing this for now, what, four, five years?
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Good run.
It's been it's been a good run.
Yeah. Podcasters staying late.
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