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Think we we ought to just zoom out as an industry and say, is this the best product that we can offer users? Because, by the way, it's not just the people that were 50 x or 20 x or 10 x levered. It's, you know, people that were one to two times long got liquidated.
The answer is we need better institutional infrastructure at the centralized exchanges, and we need to continued innovation at DeFi. Right? And we need those things to exist together side by side.
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It was great, man. I I didn't see you there, though. Were were you in London?
You guys both trick your head like it wasn't good to the site. You're kinda like, what's No.
I I agree with Rob. I didn't I saw Mike. I didn't see you.
I am. I'm just, you know, puppeteering over here. What'd you think? What'd you think of the event?
Yeah. It was so listen. It was a what I really liked about DAS, which I like about them all the time, is that you get kind of a different crowd. Right? So, you know, we were at token twenty forty nine three weeks ago at this point. Right? I'm losing my time a little bit because I'm traveling too much. But, you know, you get there and, you know, token's probably the biggest conference in the space. But it's very retail driven. It's very heavy on the booths. It's very heavy on, you know, trying to get this, you know, excitement for the broader universe of what's happening in crypto. DaaS is very
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