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Tokens need to have properties that that help them capture value. Right? And so scale, 1, there's a staking component. You can buy scale tokens, stake in the network, get rewards, participate in fees, from chains. You don't have the resources, no matter how big you think you are, to be totally general purpose. So you need to go after that first bowling pin. It knocks over the second 2. It knocks over the last ones. And then you get so big, you can knock them all over. We're in the top 5 of all block chains almost every single day in terms of unique active wallets and transaction volume. Alrigh
everyone. Welcome back to Empire. Fun episode. We're sitting down with a longtime friend, Jack O'Halloran O'Halloran. Longtime friend, but I don't know how to pronounce your last name at this point. So,
I'll give you
the background in a little bit, but, Jack, welcome to the show, man. Hey.
Hey. Pleasure to be here. Yeah. You know, it's one of those real simple Irish names. Easy to pronounce. So
I know, like, a Jewish Polish last name. You've got the I like, I like, the the the Jewish Polish people don't know how to pronounce the Irish names. You know? It's, I guess You're lucky. You
got the llano. I I I'm missing that. It could be, like, ohho maybe, but it's not as cool. Yeah. Oh. Oh.
What did your friends call you as
a kid? Jack. Jack o. Jack o. There you go.
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