How Hyperliquid Unlocks 24/7 Markets | Jake Chervinsky & MC Lader
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But I think we're at the very beginning of the hockey stick for decentralized perpetuals. And I think that perps will basically take over the derivatives markets and DeFi will take over finance. So when you add those two things together, I do think Hyperliquid has the promise to become not just the most successful crypto project of, you know, our generation, but the most successful financial product of our generation.
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Alright. Welcome back, everyone. I'm very, very excited to have this episode. Jake is a longtime friend of the pod. He's been at come here a couple times talking about regulatory stuff. MC, you are new to Empire, but also really excited to have you on. Why don't you guys introduce yourselves? I'll start. Jake is the now CEO of Hyperliquid Policy Center. We're gonna be talking a lot about, you know, advocacy for DeFi on the hill. And MC, your founder, CEO of Native Market. So welcome to the show, guys. Why don't you give you a quick introduction, and then we'll set up the discussion.
Thanks for having me. Excited to be here for the first time. I'm Emcee Lehrer, founder and CEO CEO of Native Markets, which is building the Hyperliquid Alliance stablecoin USDH. Before that, I was president and CEO of Uniswap Labs for four years in 2021, right after DeFi summer through lots of DeFi policy challenges, and a lot of growth. I started digital assets at BlackRock, bought Bitcoin 2011, was a special situations trader investor at Goldman Sachs in the financial crisis, which is what ignited my interest in DeFi and blockchain.
Awesome. And I'm Jake Trevinski. It's a pleasure to be back. I feel like I have a new job every time I talk to you, Santi. I am chief executive officer for the Hyperliquid Policy Center. And as a quick background, I was a lawyer in private practice for quite a long time doing regulatory compliance and government enforcement defense. I went all the way down the DeFi rabbit hole starting in 2019 as general counsel for Compound Labs, where I helped to design the compound governance token and decentralize the compound protocol. I spent a couple of years as chief policy officer for the Blockchain A
Well, look, we've talked a lot about hyperliquid, obviously, it's been pretty interesting since the Iran situation blowing up, like a lot of people I think in TradFi is trying to say, Oh, gosh, like there's this, there's these markets that exist over the weekend, and and we can track oil. And that's super interesting as an oracle. I've always felt that TradFi has used Bitcoin to to, like, hedge and and as a risk barometer. But I'm curious, like, MC, I mean, you you come from you know, what are your friends at Goldman Specialists? It's like, are are they talking about hyperliquid? Is this somet
I think TradFi folks, investors, are definitely paying attention. They may not be using it. They may not be actually using the chain, the product, trading in the markets. The Bloomberg articles and coverage from a week before last, were sent to me by people from all across my career and network who don't talk about crypto, saying like, oh my gosh, are these your markets? Are these this is what this is what, you know, you're working on talking about. So I think that 2
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