Polygon’s Comeback & Katana’s Impact On The Agglayer Featuring Sandeep Nailwal And Marc Boiron
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I always think of Polygon as kinda like being this nice thing where, like, yes, we've got, like, this chain that can capture, like, a lot of value, but there's this, like, much bigger picture, higher potential thing that pretty much anything else in Web three, you know, the ag layer, that actually connects all of it together.
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Yeah. I'm excited about this. Okay. So there's a lot that I wanna cover. The, the reason I wanna do this is you guys, just launched Katana. Sandeep, you also just had a bunch of updates. You're moving back into this CEO role or I'm I'm I'm not even sure I got that right, but I wanna like, there's all these updates around the what I'd call the broader Polygon ecosystem. And, Sandeep, you and I had a bunch of interesting conversations, in Dubai at Token, not just about Polygon and Katana, but just about the industry, what it's like to have run a company, our foundation, protocol in the industry
I think in in a lot of sense I mean, we all know that this industry basically, we literally all joke that, you know, three months is like one year, right, in this industry. And I think, like, the, one of the things that you can, say is that especially after 2022, you know, the the the change of I mean, the acceleration has, you know, the basically, what should I say, like, you know, the acceleration of change is is even even more. Because, you know, we have seen so many things changing recently. The government changed, the regime changed, complete new like, I think, like, last, you know, maybe
Do you think it's easier or harder to run a business today in crypto than last cycle? Or a a chain compared to this cycle or last
cycle? Chain is definitely harder to run. I would say any kind of token, you know, kind of venture token based venture, instead of equity based venture is much, much, much harder. Like even previously I mean, previously, they were like, you know, markets were good. There was liquidity for these assets in the market and all that. Now if you see the token literally I we did about it also. The token literally added adds two key values to your project. Like first is that it can give you early, you know, investment ability. Right? You know, I I was just talking, like, few hours back, to a founder.
It's funny you say that. I mean, I I was at a, I was at a ping, a couple couple weeks back, and they were like I figured it was, like, six or eight of us around the table. And, we're we're just I was, like, asking people, like, who's having fun? Like, how about it was a bunch of it was only founders around the table. And the people with a token it was like, let's call it eight people. Four people, they they have tokens. They are they're miserable. All four of them, just miserable. And the four the four folks without a token were having a bunch of fun, and that feels like actually the first tim
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