The Case for a New Internet | Curtis Yarvin & Jake Brukhman, Urbit
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Imagine you wanna make a phone call to an ENS address. Imagine you wanna send an email to a Bitcoin address. Okay. How do you do that? And, you know, there's a lot of reasons you could wanna send an email to a Bitcoin address. I'll bet, you know, everyone in crypto has had a feeling of, like, oh, I see this address out on the Blockchain. Like, how can I do a reverse lookup and send an email to them? And the answer is you can't. But imagine what an IP address would cost if you needed to own an IP address to use the Internet, and then multiply that by 4,000,000,000.
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and we're Urbit Investors, obviously.
Urbit Investors. So Yeah.
So we're talking our books. We're talking our books. We we're carrying our bags. Our bags appear as imaginary mercies around our shoulders.
Right? Shell Fest. Yeah. Exactly. So, yeah, I mean, the context for this episode, everyone, was I, I I went down a Urbit rabbit hole several months ago from this guy. I had, met with this guy, Brian, who runs course 1, and he was talking to me about Urbit. And, Jake is really into Urbit, and then Curtis is the founder of Urbit and actually left Urbit, left Urbit, walked away after maybe 15 or 16 or 17 years of building it, and recently came back, I think, which is we're gonna pull out. So I wanted to do this episode. So maybe, Curtis, actually the best place to start. I'd love to hear you tell
you know, we have to go 2020. I mean, you know, we have to go back to, you know, the early Internet. And in some ways, the best way to think of the Internet is just as the blockchain of the nineties. Right? It was this, like, sort of magical I mean, I first used the Internet in, like, 1988. So I remember the late eighties Internet, which was by far the best Internet, and I'm only sure I'm sure the mid eighties Internet was even better. And, you know, so one of the things that I say about social networks, about networks of all kinds, is that the quality of network can only decline. Compare, if
that's actually what Facebook is. It's not a social network. It's a social database.
Right? And so, you know, like, you know and you you feel kinda cool if you're a node on a social network. You know? But if you're a row
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