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The sort of opening premise of your question of, well, there are these chains that just can fork the code and go do their own thing, and there's no, like, value accrual. That may be true at a financial level, but it is not true at an innovation level. And that is the power of open source.
Giving out a 100,000,000 in retro funding tokens that we have over the next, whatever, let's just say 10 years of making it up, you there needs to be value that's created from that for that flywheel to come in, and so none of it's sustainable unless you do that. You want to get this ecosystem up and running. Once it's up and running, you have to you have to fully and fundamentally believe that the value that you're offering is something you wanna participate in.
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