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2 fun facts about our newest sponsorship partner, Ramp. 1st, they are the fastest growing Fintech company in history, reaching a level of revenue in 5 years that I can't quote exactly, but is eyebrow raising. 2nd, they are backed by more of my favorite past guests, at least 16 of them when I counted, than probably any other company that I'm aware of. A list that includes Ravi Gupta at Sequoia, Josh Kushner at Thrive, Keith Raboy at Founders Fund and Khosla Ventures, Patrick and John Collison, Michael Ovitz, Brad Gershner. The list goes on and on. These facts demand the question, why? Having be
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My guest today is Boyd Barty. Boyd was one of the most popular guests way back in 2016 and 17 in the early editions of this podcast. He's a lion tracker, a storyteller who grew up in the South African wilderness living amongst and tracking wild leopards. This is his 4th time on Invest Like the Best, but the first in 6 years. Boyd is the perfect follow-up episode to my episode with Lulu Meservi unpacking the intricacies of storytelling and why it is such an essential skill for founders. Boyd walks us through different mechanisms of cultivating storytelling and becoming a meaning maker. He encou
my god. We had been diagram on the podcast. Here we go. And
can you believe the amount of freaking adventures we've had together since 6 years ago?
Yeah. I mean, if I think about our first meeting in your New York apartment, apartment, and then I've got images in my head of other scenes, jumping off a waterfall, tracking a lion, sleeping in the bush, it's a lot of ground we've covered since then.
We're gonna talk about stories today and the relevance for everyone of living stories, having stories, telling stories, maybe a little bit of an angle for business because I don't know, I'm interested in the application of everything you've learned to how people might build their thing or contribute to building something. But maybe you could just explain to us why right now your creative output is so dedicated to stories and hunting stories. I love that idea of being a story hunter. What made this so interesting for you to explore in the last couple months? Yeah.
It's a great place to start. I mean, I think there's a few parts to it of things coming together. The first was, I grew up around campfires, and I grew up around incredible storytellers. And I have these memories of my childhood of someone being out on a safari, or my father taking someone out, and something going incredibly wrong. And then that night, sitting around the fire, a great storyteller would be telling the story of what happened. For example, I remember one occasion with some folks came down. This is when they were still building the safari business. They went out to track a lion. T
explain a bit more about how you've seen people find the meaning in the first place. We'll talk a lot about actual storytelling and story hunting and stuff like this, but that seems pretty hard to be confident in something unique that's meaningful and relevant as a leader. How have you seen people find that thing in the first place? There's no one that teaches you that. You have to find it for yourself. So the bes
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