Gaurav Misra & Dwight Churchill - Building Captions - [Invest Like the Best, EP.405]
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This year's presenting sponsor for invest like the best is Ramp. Ramp has built a command and control system for companies' finances. You can issue cards, manage approvals, make vendor payments of all kinds, and even automate closing your books all in one place. We did an incredibly deep dive on the company and its product as part of this new partnership, and what we heard and saw in customer surveys over and over again was that Ramp is the best product by far. We've been users ourselves since I started my business since long before I was able to spend so much time with the founders of Ramp an
are using our previous provider for over 30 years. We had the entire suite of products from portfolio accounting to trade order management, reporting, the reconciliation features. I didn't think that we would ever be able to switch to anything else. Andy, our head trader, suggested that I meet with Ridgeline. And they started off right away, not by introducing their company, but who they were hiring. And that caught my attention. They were pretty much putting in place a dream team of technical experts. Then they started talking about this single source of data. And I was like, what in the worl
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My guests today are Dwight Churchill and Garof Misra, cofounders of Captions, which uses AI to generate and edit talking videos and has grown to significant scale at remarkable speed. We explore a key distinction in AI, tackling bounded problems like video generation versus unbounded problems like general intelligence, and what this means for building sustainable businesses. We also explore their unique data flywheel, why video generation could reach Hollywood quality within 18 months, and why building advanced AI products doesn't require huge teams. Please enjoy this great discussion with Dwi
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we gonna do with it? And how can we build enduring generational businesses with this technology at the core? You were very early in building a business that charged customers very early on using this technology. Maybe you can begin by just riffing on the lessons that you've learned so far about building an AI business that are maybe distinctive from a normal software business or something, and also get into some of the open questions that you yourselves have trying to evolve your business model. I just think this is becoming the important question in the marketplace right now, and you're one o
Getting into it, like, I think the first question behind the question that comes to mind is, like, what exactly did we actually achieve with this AI revolution? Like, what is actually the difference? Like, AI existed before, and it exists today. Obviously, there's something magical about what is there today. I think when y
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