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They get any smaller and smaller? They
get smaller. Right? I mean, peep people do respect you more when you have a big camera for some No. It's
cool. And about 20 guys that you pay a fortune to. Right? Alright.
K. You said that you love winning, and you have won a lot in life in, real estate, in business, in TV, in politics. So let me start with a mindset, a psychology question. What drives you more, the love of winning or the hate of losing?
Maybe equally. Maybe both. I don't like losing, and I do like winning. I've never thought of it as to which is more of a driving force. You've
been close with a lot of the greats in sport. You think about Tiger Woods, Muhammad Ali. You have people like, Michael Jordan, who I think hate losing more than anybody. So what do you learn from those guys?
Well, they do have something different. You know, the great champions have something very different, like the sports champions. And, you know, you have champions in other fields, but you see it more readily in sports. You see it over a weekend or you see it during a game. And you see that certain people stand out, and they keep, they keep standing out. But it's there for you. It doesn't take a lifetime to find out that somebody was a winner or a loser. And so the sports thing is very interesting, but, you know, I play golf with different people, and, you have there's a different mindset among
said that politics is a dirty game Yeah. In the past.
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