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The following is a conversation with Mark Andreessen, his second time on the podcast. Mark is a visionary tech leader and investor who fundamentally shaped the development of the Internet and the tech industry in general over the past 30 years. He's the cocreator of Mosaic, the first widely used web browser, cofounder of Netscape, cofounder of the legendary Silicon Valley venture capital firm, Andreessen Horowitz, and is one of the most influential voices in the tech world, including at the intersection of technology and politics.
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This is a Lex Fridman podcast. To support it, please check out our sponsors in the description. And now, dear friends, here's Mark and Reason. Alright. Let's start with optimism. If you were to imagine the best possible one to 2 years, 2025, 26 for tech, for big tech and small tech, what would it be? What would it look like? Lay out your vision for the best possible scenario trajectory for America. The
roaring twenties. Roaring
twenties. The
roaring twenties. I mean, look, couple things. It is remarkable over the last several years with all of the issues, including, you know, every not just everything in politics, but also COVID and every other thing that's happened. It's really amazing. The United States just kept growing. If you just look at economic growth charts, the US just growing, and very significantly many other countries stopped growing. So Canada stopped growing. The UK has stopped growing. Germany has stopped growing, and, you know, some of those countries may be actually going backwards at this point. And there's a ve
What about the humans themselves? Almost philosophical questions. You know, I travel across the world and there's something about the American spirit, the entrepreneurial spirit that's uniquely intense in America. I don't know what that is. I I've talked to, Saga who claims it might be the Scots Irish blood that runs through, the the history of America. What is it? You at the heart of Silicon Valley, is there something in the water? Why is there's this entrepreneurial spirit?
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