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Welcome to nonconsensus investing. I'm Ram Oluwalia, your host and CIO at Lumida Wealth, where we specialize in the craft of alternative investments. At Lumida, we help guide clients through the intricacies of managing wealth so they don't have to shoulder the burden alone. Through this podcast, we draw back the curtain to reveal the strategies employed by the best in the business for their clients so that you too can invest beyond the ordinary.
Welcome. Welcome, everyone. We have an incredible guest, Ram Alaouwalia, CEO of Lumina Wealth. Ram, it's always a pleasure. Welcome back. It's
always so much fun, Angelo. Thanks again for having me. Pleasure to be here.
And I hope the audience enjoys it. I've known Ron for many years. He's one of the most incredible critical thinkers, original thinkers, and investors that I know, and I like long form. There's no way that I could do just an hour with this guy. So this is gonna be long. We're gonna cover everything. I hope you're really gonna enjoy it. And my goal is to get the best out of Ram, and there probably will be some things, maybe geopolitically, as I keep abreast of Ram's x account, of course, that I think we have some varying opinions and disagreements, but that's what makes this awesome. I am gonna
When birth when Buffett bowed out after the Berkshire Hathaway conference, that was the top in Berkshire Hathaway stock. That's one observation. So from a market sentiment perspective, people are feeling more depressed that he's buying out. You can see it in the prices. Two is Buffett was the first investment influencer, and he created a cultural ritual and a pilgrimage of traveling to Omaha. And if you go on that pilgrimage, you'll see all the different brands from Dairy Queen to Coca Cola and to other confectioneries and consumer staples and See's Candy there. And people go there, and they h
that role. Throw one that you expect at you, but before I quite get to that, I mean, I can't help but chuckle. Who doesn't love a good what maybe Diet Coke, See's Candy, and a good Blizzard at Dairy Queen? Warren Buffett is not exactly the epitome of things I should do for health and wellness, but that guy at 95 and his mental clarity, man, it might be genetics. I don't know what it is. I don't think it's the Diet Coke, See's candy, and blizzards.
Said for agent and longevity. Look. He's clearly not following the Brian Johnson. It'll be two things. One is he got up and he went to work every day, and he never stopped doing what he enjoys doing. Two, he's part of the community. Community is a big driver of longevity, having friends, feeling valued, creating meaning in the lives of others. So he was doing that day in and day out. He retired because he said that for the first time, he noticed that Greg Abel, his successor, could just run faster than him, and Buffett couldn't run as fast as he used to. So I think there's a lesson in all of t
activity and country. Extremely, pardon me, but it's extremely difficult to ever replace a Warren Buffett. So, sure, short term is gonna be gyrations in the stock. Like you mentioned, Greg, I'm sure is highly capable. Otherwise, Buffett wouldn't be doing this. But that being said, markets are not always logical. There's no question there must be some vulnerabilities, I would think, relative in Berkshire Hathaway. What would you do if you were an allocator? Do you sit and wait? Do you be tactical now? And what's your perspective? As
it relates to Berkshire Hathaway or markets in general? Which We'll start with Berkshire. Berkshire is overvalued. It's more expensive than the s
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