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Code's not even the right verb anymore, right? But I have to express my will to my agents for sixteen Manifest. Hours a
can I have not just a single session of plot code or codex or some of these agent harnesses? How can I have more of them? How How can I do that appropriately? The agent part is now taken for granted. Now the claw like entities are taken for granted. And now you can have multiple of them. And now you can have instructions to them. And now you can have optimization of the instructions. But this is why it gets to the psychosis, is that this is like infinite and everything is skill issue.
Listeners. Welcome back to KnowBriars. Today, I'm here with Andrej Karpathy, and we have a wide ranging conversation for you about CodeAgents, the future of engineering and AI research, how more people can contribute to research, what's happening in robotics, his prediction for how agents can reach out into the real world, and education in this next stage. Welcome, Andre. Andre, thanks for doing this.
Yeah. Thank you for having me.
So it's been a very exciting couple of months in AI.
Yeah, you could say that.
I remember walking into the office at some point and you were like really locked in. Was asking what you were up to, and you're like, I just I have to code for sixteen hours a day. Or code's not even the right verb anymore, right? But I have to express my will to my agents for sixteen Manifest. Hours a Because like there's been a jump in capability. What's happening? Tell me about your experience.
Yeah. I kind of feel like I was just in this perpetual I still am often in this state of AI psychosis just like all the time because there was a huge unlock in what you can achieve as a person, as an individual. Right? Because you were bottlenecked by, you know, your typing speed and so on. But now with these agents, it really I would say in December is when it really just something flipped, where I kinda went from eighty twenty of, like, you know, to, like, twenty eighty of writing code by myself versus just delegating to agents. And I don't even think it's twenty eighty by now. I think it's
Well, if you're nervous, the rest of us are nervous. We have a team that we work with at Conviction that their setup is everybody is like, you know, none of the engineers write code by hand. And they're all microphoned, they just like whisper to their agents all the time. It's the strangest work setting ever. And I thought they were crazy, and now I, like, I fully accept. I was like, oh, this was the way. Like, you're just ahead of it. Yes. How do you think about your own capacity now to, like, explore or to do projects? Like, what is it limited by?
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