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Today on the podcast, I sat down with Steven Novinstern, the founder of Kinsu, a portfolio company of ours that's building in the monad ecosystem. This was a fun conversation that touched on the history of the DeFi ecosystem, some of the new primitives that have emerged over the past few years, and what is likely to be launching in the monad ecosystem. I think you'll enjoy this one. So without further ado, here's my conversation with Steven from Kinzu. Matt
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down by Bad Mortgage Investments, Lehman, which has 25,000 employees, will be liquidated. The federal government loans American International Group, AIG, $85,000,000,000. This is a different kind of market, and the Fed is asleep. The federal government is stepping it to stabilize Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the 2 mortgage giants that have been threatened by the housing crisis. The Bank of England has pumped £75,000,000,000 more into Britain's ailing economy. And the new round of quantities is easy. You
print a couple trillion dollars, and all of a sudden, people start to worry. So out of this worry, we have something called the Bitcoin Bitcoin. Steven,
thanks so much for joining us today on podcast. Love talking about Monad and excited about what you're building. Thanks.
Pleasure to be here, Matt. Very excited about Monad as well.
So before we hit record here, we're talking in the weeds about DeFi, and I'm always just curious how people got so deep in the space. So what was your story and how you got so deep in DeFi to begin with? And then we'll start talking about Monad. It's
definitely very active DeFi summer back in the early days of Uniswap. I remember the SushiSwap VampireTech, but I actually really got into crypto around 2016 or so. I think I started buying some Bitcoin ETH and building an egregious amount of Ethereum mining rigs in my then Williamsburg Brooklyn apartment. But I think DeFi definitely was more of an ad tech person for the majority of my career. Some might say Web 2 monetization, DSPs, SSPs, Programmatic Media. And I feel like I found my way into programmatic finance through the world of DeFi.
I think programmatic media might be the only thing more complicated than DeFi. It seems like a very complicated field there. Maybe
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