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Travis Kalanick joins TVPN to discuss why he's betting his next company on industrial AI. He shares his vision behind Atoms, explains how autonomy is transforming industries like mining and food production, and discusses why bringing AI into the physical world may be an even bigger opportunity than software alone.
Before we start, the last time you were on here, that was, for me, the best moment of making the show I agree. Ever. John and I, it was it was totally surreal, and, we had a we we really enjoyed the conversation. But but to me, we left that, and it was almost depressing because as somebody who, you know, started getting into startups in the twenty tens Yeah. You were that guy. And then I was realizing with the show, we we had that conversation with you, and it and it was, you know, a significant day for you. But it was sort of depressing because I realized, like, a moment like that would never
It will happen.
It will happen. It will happen. I know it'll happen differently, but but, you know, a childhood hero Yeah. Yeah. Having that conversation, that's one zero one for me. I don't think it'll happen again. There'll be other it was peak.
It was good. Good. It
But, anyways, you've been busy since then.
I've been busy.
And we're
I look. I'm super excited. It's my first OpenAI podcast. Yeah. I'm very excited about it. Also, wanna let you guys know that, if you need therapy sessions for what it's like to be a made man in retirement Sure. Like, if that's a thing,
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