Agents on Crypto Payment Rails | Crypto x AI Event
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Hello, everyone. I'm Ken. Welcome to our panel for Delphi's AI and crypto panel. Today with me, I have very smart guests. We're gonna discuss payments for AI agents, which is one of my favorite topics, in the crypto AI stack. Yeah. Why don't we, start with a brief round of introductions? Yuga, maybe we could we could start with you. Sure
thing. It's great to be here. So, my name is Yuga Koehler. I go I go by hugai.eef in the in the on chain world. I'm a senior engineering manager at Coinbase. I work in the Coinbase developer platform, leading some of our on chain AI efforts. And our goal, within CDP is to bring the next 1000000 developers on chain so that they can, in turn, bring the next 1000000000 users on chain. Awesome.
Don, you wanna go next? Sure.
Can do. 1st off, thanks for having me. Great panel. Great topic. Close to my heart. I'm Don Gosin. I'm the cofounder and CEO at Nevermind. As as cliched as this is gonna sound, it's a bit of a labor of love. I've been in the ML and and data space for pretty much my entire career, so the last 20 plus years. Started in commodities trading on the risk side doing what back then was called statistical modeling, and then parlayed that into a career for the better part of a decade and a half in IT consulting as a subject matter expert in data analytics. Took me all over the world building large scale
everybody. My name is Craig Hewitt. I'm the cofounder of Skyfire. Skyfire is building an open Visa for AI agents. Agents, use Skyfire today to pay other agents, to pay for data, and to pay for services on on demand basis. In terms of my background, about 10 years in payments, Bloomberg and also at Ripple, starting RippleNet in 2014, 2015. Super excited to talk to this panel today, because I think we're all believers in the fundamental change that's happening right now, and that is AI agents being the largest consumers of block space as well as the largest drivers of commerce in the near future
Thank you, guys. So as a starter, I wanna, very fundamentally ask you guys what, what do you see as the problem here? Like, what what is the problem that that we are solving here? So, basically, why could you articulate why you think existing payment solutions that have been working for humans for ages is just not suitable for agents? Like, why like, a simpler way to ask this is why can't I just give my AI agent, say, my credit card information and then have it, purchase things on my behalf? Yeah. What what is so different with the nature of agents that you think we need a new, payment solutio
cards seem like a pretty simple solution, but there are some major limitations when it comes to actually giving agents your card and letting them use it. And I think it comes down to just access and authorization, the actual input of card details into a checkout solution, the rail economics, then, like, actually receiving funds as well. So just going through those, it's not trivial to give an agent, your credit card details. And so you
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