The War Between Centralized (OpenAI, Gemini, Anthropic) and Crypto x AI's Open Source Movement with Ben Fielding, Travis Good, Michael Rinko and Ponduring Durian

Speaker 0: You're now plugged in to the Delphi podcast.

Speaker 1: Hey, everyone. Welcome back to the podcast. I'm your host, Tommy, and I'm thrilled to host a crypto AI versus centralized AI podcast with 4 of the absolute brightest minds that I could find, on the topic. I'm gonna let everyone introduce themselves, but, we have Ben Fielding, who's the cofounder of Jensen. Jensen's building decentralized compute to push the boundaries of machine learning.

We have Travis Good, who's cofounder of Ambient, and they're focused on world scale open source models, and they are a portfolio company. So that'll be team I'll I'll call them the team crypto AI side. And then from Delphi, we have Michael Runco, who's senior markets analyst who wrote Delphi's first report in AI called The Real Merge in February 2024. And we have PD, who's an analyst at Delphi Research, who's anonymous. So that's what we'll call him here.

And he wrote the tower in the square, which was just an amazing report on centralized versus decentralized AI. Very balanced and very thought provoking, and and that's sort of what we're here to discuss. But let's go in that order. Ben, why don't you give your quick intro, and we'll go around the room?

Speaker 2: Sure. Yeah. Thank you for for doing this and for having me. So, yeah, I'm Ben, cofounder of Jensen. Jensen's a machine learning compute protocol.

You can think about us as a protocol layer a bit like the early web protocols that just sits across machine learning capable hardware and allows it to be used for any machine learning training task in the world. So the idea is instead of using AWS or Google Cloud or something as a resource, to train your models, you can use any device in the world, and you can send your model directly to that device or a kind of subset of the world's devices, but of any size. It turns machine learning compute into a resource a bit like electricity, like a commodity rather than being this kind of, like, individ

Speaker 1: It's helpful. Travis, let's go to you next.

Speaker 3: Sure. Yeah. My name's, Travis. I'm the cofounder of Ambient. You know, I I have a in terms of my educational background, I have a a PhD in IT.

Prior to this, I've been focused on AI related applications in industry for the best part of the decade, including some related to drug discovery and critical structure.