#2210 - Calley Means & Casey Means, MD – The Joe Rogan Experience

Joe

Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out. The

Casey

Joe Rogan experience. Showing

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my day. Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. What's

Calley

up? Nice to meet you guys. Great

Joe

to meet

Casey

you. Us, Joe. Thanks

Calley

for coming here. I'm all happy, but this is not a happy subject. I don't know. It's probably a bad way to start off a podcast of how fucked we are. But, I really appreciate what you guys have been doing, and get I I think I first saw you on Tucker and, the the details of all the stuff you guys have exposed is it's not I mean, it's shocking, but it's not surprising. It's, it's really crazy. So can we get into this like you used to be on the dark side? Let's start with you. Tell everybody, your background, like, how you got started with this. We

Joe

were born and raised in Washington DC. And I thought being a good young conservative was supporting the farm industry or supporting the food industry, defending those industries. So I went to Stanford with Casey. She studied biology. I studied political science and economics and went on campaigns, but then was a lobbyist. Everyone bipartisan in DC goes to work for the food and the farm industry. And on one morning, I'm working with the farm industry to literally steer money to the dean of Stanford Med School, who's a pain specialist, to be put on an NIH panel to say that opioids in 2011, that

Calley

What what is the conversation like when you guys are formulating a strategy to try to pretend that opioids aren't a problem? Like, how what are the conversations like? This is

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