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are you, sir? I'm just fine, Joe. How are you today? I'm
great. It's very nice to meet you.
Yeah. Well, it's great meeting you. You know, I've been getting email over the last 5 years that says, hey, Tom. You need to be on the Joe Rogan Show. Tom, why haven't you been on the Joe Rogan Show? And I get that. And I said, hey, guys. You just don't walk into the Joe Rogan Show and say, hey. Here I am. I wanna talk to Joe. You guys are gonna have to write Joe and see if you can't get him to invite me. Well, something happened. Either one of those got to you or you just found out about it on your own, but I'm glad to be here.
I'm glad to hear too. I pretty much found it organically. I think someone suggested it. I think people have suggested it over the years, your books. And then, I started reading 1, and I got very interested in it. I was like, wow. This is pretty crazy. Like, well, let's let's just get people to the beginning of, my big toe. How did, how did how did you first begin with the research? Well,
actually, it all started while I was in graduate school working on my PhD, and I was, you know, I'd passed all my tests and everything, so I was doing research. And the research I did was experimental experimental nuclear, but it was low energy nuclear. And we had this big, like, 4 or 5 story tall Van de Graaff generator that, produced the high speed particles. You know, now that's different from the high energy particle, you know, which is hugely expensive, and you wait in line for long times to get on one of those accelerators, but this was owned by the university. And, when that machine was
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