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had a crazy fucking life, man. Like, a really crazy life. So
to get
everybody up to speed right from the beginning, you spent twenty five years undercover working for the FBI in the Klan Nazi organizations and biker gangs.
And then some. Yes, sir. What
a crazy, crazy life that is. What first of all, how did you get how did you first get started doing that?
Good question. I grew up in South Carolina. Played ball, all that stuff. I I I was always kind of a I mean, if you look back, not trying to be cocky, whatever, because that's not it. You've had plenty of people on the show that are complete badasses. But I was kind of a bully of bullies. I didn't I always looked out I like the underdog. I bounced in college, so I was already learning that gift of gab, and fight techniques and stuff like that. And then I got I became a cop because when I was in college, I took a course. I'm I'm taking electives. I went to college, so I'd have four more years to
it just started taking off from there. You gotta think that biker gangs are probably super suspicious of people being undercover because it's such a theme. You
think? It's been around
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