#2345 - Roman Yampolskiy – The Joe Rogan Experience

Joe

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Roman

thank you for doing this. I really appreciate

Joe

My pleasure. Thank you for inviting me.

Roman

This subject of, the dangers of AI, it's it's very interesting because I get two very different responses from people dependent upon how invested they are in, AI financially. The the the people that have AI companies or are part of some sort of AI group, all are like, it's gonna be a net positive for humanity. I think, overall, we're we're gonna have much better lives. It's gonna be easier. Things will be cheaper. It'll be easier to get along. And then I hear people like you, and I'm like, why do I believe him? It's

Joe

actually not true. All of them are on record as saying this is gonna kill us. Whatever it's Sam Altman or anyone else, they all, at some point, were leaders in AI safety work. They published an AI safety, and their PDO levels are insanely high. Not like mine, but still, 30% chance that humanity dies is a little too much.

Roman

Yeah. That's pretty high. But yours is, like, 99.9.

Joe

It's another way of saying we can't control superintelligence indefinitely. It's impossible.

Roman

When did you start working on this?

Joe

Long time ago. So my PhD was I finished in, 02/2008. I did work on online casino security, basically preventing bots. And at that point, I realized bots are getting much better. They're gonna out compete us, obviously, in poker, but also instilling cyber resources. And, from then on, I've been kind of trying to scale it to the next level AI.

#2345 - Roman Yampolskiy

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