#2411 - Gavin de Becker
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You got a bunch of notes. You got a lot of things to talk about.
We we were
starting to talk outside. We're like, hold this. Hold the hold these thoughts. Let's bring them in here. Well, here's
where I am. As a criminologist, you know, I take a different approach to things. I'm not obviously a doctor or a scientist, thankfully. And as a criminologist, you get a view of the world that's quite interesting, and so I took a deep dive into pharma. But I I wanna put that off for a second because I know you know a lot of these CIA operations like Paperclip Mhmm. Where we bring over people who are working on bioweapons from Japan and from Germany, and we don't prosecute them, and we, you know, use them to be the beginning of The US bioweapons program. And I know you know MK Ultra and Mocking
Oh my god. Is that just, like, an idea that starts off as a precautionary measure that just got completely out of hand because there was no oversight?
Yeah. No oversight is the key to a bunch of stuff I wanna talk about today because when governments big centralized governments and other power centers become, you know, with without oversight and where does oversight come from? It comes from us, the public, having to be skeptical. And if the public is not skeptical, if they'll buy a story like, oh, a terrible terrorist group assassinated this guy, Aldo Moro. How terrible. And they'll buy the story with no skepticism because that's what we're told. Then there will be no oversight and power centers it's no surprise. You know? We could talk abou
Absolutely. Yeah. And it's it's a strange time for that, you know, because first of all, one of the things that happened was the the Smith month. Right? So when during the Obama administration, when they made it legal to use propaganda on American citizens, that that blurred the lines of truth and reality for all of us
Yeah.
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