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I'm great. I watched your documentary, The Alabama Solution last night, and it was wild. It's very, very disturbing. I'm kinda shocked I hadn't heard more about it, you know, because it's such a terrible, terrible story. It's such a just unbelievably awful situation and, I think you covered it really well. It's just it's very, very heartbreaking.
Yeah. Thanks for watching it. Yeah. It's sort of a question of of sort of a question of why people don't know about things that are happening with our tax dollars in our backyards. You know? Are there things that we don't wanna know? There's a reason why people sort of drive by prisons on the highway and they see the little metal sign and it says, you know, x y z correctional, and they probably think, as I did for many years, well, I'm sure it's not great back there, but it doesn't need to be great. And if anything terrible was happening back there, somebody probably tell me about it. But beca
Bad things happen every single time, and this is one of the worst things. It's what's really terrifying is the sheer numbers of people that died there with no investigation. That's what's really terrifying. Yeah. Because, you know, you even detailed it at the end, like, since then, how many people have died. And it's just like, good lord. You're you're thousands.
Yeah. Well, there's a attorney general in Alabama named Steve Marshall who's always run on, like, tough on crime strategies and saying, you know, we gotta lock more people up, and people who are in prison for violent crime should potentially never get out of prison ever. And he says in the film, as you remember, that there I I asked him about the nature of crime, and he says, well, I think there are evil people in this world, people who have absolutely no regard for human life. And this is a guy who's presided over a system that's killed, that's led to the deaths of 1,500 people just since we
Well, you you even the the it's the old expression, who's gonna watch the watchers. Right? Because one of the things that you detail is very obviously nonviolent people who spend all their time writing and reading, and they're getting retribution because they're calling attention to the terrible conditions at the prison. So the one guy with glasses who was beaten blindly, what was his name? Robert Old Council. I mean, there's so many stories that you show in this documentary from smuggled cameras. So these guys all get contraband cameras from the guards.
From the guards. Yeah. The guards sell the camera sell the sell the phones to the men inside. Which is also crazy. Yeah. I mean, there's so many drugs in the Alabama state prison system, and I I spoke to one of the people who was incarcerated there early on on a contraband cell phone, and I said, you know, where are all the the drugs coming from? The amount of drugs here, this is an incredible, you know, human wasteland. You're seeing just high, high percentage, maybe eighty percent of the people are addicted to drugs, many of whom were not addicted to drugs before they came in. And how are yo
Oh god. Yeah. So what are the main drugs these guys are addicted to? What are they getting them?
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