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Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out. The Joe Rogan experience. Showing my day. Joe Rogan podcast. My night. All day. We're up. Alright. MVP in the house. The most enigmatic, difficult dude to solve in all of MMA. That's you, man. Bro, you know what?
I I always I wanna start simply because you what you have done for me specifically, I get a lot of criticism, a lot of hate, and especially, obviously, jumping when I first got into the into the MMA world. New to me, you know, I'm just like, okay. Let me just be myself, do my thing. First fight goes well, land this crazy kick, go viral, and I get nothing but hate hate hate hate hate hate hate. But then having prominent figures like yourself that constantly have been champion my style, champion champion in the, like, the points element of things, I just appreciate you for that.
Oh, my pleasure, brother. I appreciate you. It's almost like we called for you because there was a time in the early days of MMA, like in the early two thousands where I was like, this is what's missing. Mhmm. This what's missing is point fighters, and people would, like, mock me. They I'd be like, no. No. No. No. Like, I've sparred with these dudes. You can't hit them. It's a different thing. I'm like, they have a very specific skill, that skill of closing distance and being elusive.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. It's not like any other sport. It's almost like fencing and MMA combine or and martial arts combined.
Yeah. Yeah. I always tell people that, like, most of the combat sports in terms of kickboxing, the full contact side of things is more to do with the there's a fixation on power, knocking
people out.
Whereas our element is just the speed element.
Yes. It's
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