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Hey, Andrew. Welcome to the Never Sleep Podcast. What I, you know, love about your show I mean, you and I actually have fairly similar backgrounds in some ways where we're both, you know, stand at least I was at Stanford for almost ten years. Right? From ninety seven to two thousand seven, actually more than ten years as first undergrad, then PhD, then, you know, basically postdoctoral faculty, then I taught CS and stats and genomics at Stanford. And then I left and found a genomics company sold that gone to tech. And then you were a faculty member, and you also in a sense in a different way,
Yeah. Yeah. Still tenured. I got a meeting with my dean in about a week and a half for lunch. It's a friendly conversation. Not not
a Okay. Great.
Not an exit conversation. Yeah. I taught up until very recently. I ran a fairly big lab and then tapered that off during the pandemic. My last postdoc is now a faculty member. So I, you know, moved all my students and postdocs onto their next steps. But yeah, I'm still a tenure member neurobiology and ophthalmology. I have a split appointment. And I was born at Stanford Hospital. I did my Oh,
is that right?
Yeah. I worked in the in the sleep lab for a summer during university. And so, you know, I it's and Stanford's my backyard. I grew up in South Palo Alto. So
Okay. Well, I think, you know, it's funny because we're both, you know, that soil is very it's very interesting thing. It's a bridge between in my view, the old world and the new, because in different ways, we sort of made our careers on the Internet from there. And obviously, it's a weird thing because on the one hand, obviously, Stanford is known for having a lot of people who get into tech or in your case get into becoming creators out of there. On the other hand, the university isn't really as friendly towards that as people might think from the outside. Like in the sense of when when I wa
Well, my experience has been quite different, and I'm not saying this
Okay. Sure.
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