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I would say my projection is higher. I don't have quite a as well defined price target as Matt does, but I do think that we continue to see the ETFs perform well. I think last year around this time, I said I thought there'd be about 40 to 80,000,000,000 of inflows. It would not surprise me to see the higher end of that range this year. And so the math kinda falls out there in, even if I'm not publicly given a a price target, just getting to see them in.
Hi, everyone. Welcome to Unchained, your no hype resource for all things crypto. I'm your host, Laura Shin. We are now featuring quotes from listeners on the show. Today, we have comments responding to my interview with CoinFund's Seth Gins about his outlook for crypto. On x, Illaoi Capital says, interesting breakdown. The long term bull case for Bitcoin is definitely compelling, especially with the potential altcoin season ahead. Ripple effect of tariffs on crypto is often underestimated. Also in x, Reedrum Rick says, bullmark season never ends, bro. To have your comment featured, write a rev
for having us, Laura. Really excited to be here. Great
to be here. Thank you.
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give you a slightly sad thought, Laura, to kick things off, which I realized this weekend as I was spending yet another hour digging into the on again off again impact of tariffs on the market, which is that the return of Bitcoin over the past month, at least through Sunday, was precisely zero. So all of this all of this angst, these hours on x, all of this reading about tipping dilemmas and, you know, various macro things amounted to nothing. It's just an extraordinary moment to live in because as you mentioned at the top, you know, anything could change over the next hour or day. I think mos
what about you?
Yeah. Absolutely. Like, echoing what Matt said, I've never seen such a strong disconnect with our clients between their short term expectations and trepidations and their long term bullishness about an industry that has so many structural talents in place. So we're finally having the great conversations in Washington about how to build this industry properly. We're getting the right looks from the right people, and we are building things great. But that's gonna take a while to play out. And in the short run, a lot of people are nervous to take very much linear risk. You know? I think we're see
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