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Alright. Welcome back. As always, I'm your host, Austin Campbell, high scholar of Zero Knowledge Group. Here with my cohosts, Ram Alawwalia, maester of wealth, leader of Lumina, and Chris Perkins, the golden hand of two fifty Digital, which Chris, we're going to be talking about later in the episode. So everybody, please stay tuned for that one. Starting today though, I think we need to talk about Drift and North Korea. So what happened is that there was an exploit, which was the biggest DeFi hack of 2026 so far, where 285,000,000 was drained from Drift protocol on April 1, approximately at tw
Yeah. This was a really scary attack, because it's it was highly sophisticated. Look. When a nation state attacks a startup, the nation state's gonna win every single time. And here you had a nation state that put significant resources. And the one thing that we've seen time and time again is their sophistication around social engineering. What made this so scary was that through proxies, they developed in person trust at conferences. This is the first I've heard about. This is taking hacks to the next level. Right? And no, North Korean folks didn't infiltrate whatever, conference they attende
So I'll hop in on the circle point then and say, Chris, I think post genius, especially after the rules are written, this is gonna become significantly more clear. And what I'll say on that is that I don't think we're gonna have much of a problem, and Circle will not have legal liability for freezing funds temporarily in these cases. Right? If you look at how traditional financial entities operate within the BSA, it is totally acceptable and, in fact, required for banks to deal with these situations by actually taking actions to verify what's going on. So if you've ever tried to send a large w
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take action in cases like this where they're gonna be asked to freeze things. The other thing that I think is a little bit unexplored territory, but I expect Drift will be where the rubber finally meets the road, is does Circle have liability here for not acting? I will remind everybody, even ignoring the pending license with the OCC, Circle has money transmission licenses in most US states. Money transmitters have to take some degree of care with user funds. They can't just give your stuff away. Like, if I show up at MoneyGram claiming to be Ram with no ID and they give me $12,000 that was me
Well, it reminds me of the conversation we had last week about what happens when the legal system, the regulatory framework interacts with nominally decentralized trustless system. You have a conflict here. Is this FinTe
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