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Velocity is important, and I do think we, like well, we could definitely do better. And like you mentioned, yeah, you can imagine we try to do more quick upgrades. That's, yeah, definitely something to move faster. I think what's probably more lacking is just simply, you know, there's this notion of North Star that people like to throw around. And so, you know, if you look at, like, even ACD today, I think different people have different visions for, like, where a theory actually go.
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So before we dive into the more technical discussion, how about each of you tell me and the audience about yourselves, your background, how you got into Ethereum, and how you became research co lead at the foundation? Alex, why don't we start with you?
Sure. Yeah. It's a long story. So I've been following this area for a very long time. And, yeah, I think my first entry point was I had just heard about Ethereum on the Internet, like, Reddit or something way back in the day. And it sounded interesting. At the time, I didn't understand what a blockchain was or crypto or any of this or, like, more importantly, what it, like, meant, like, for the world. So I just thought it was, like, a very interesting, like, technical exercise, I suppose. Then that led me to the white paper. Then I, like, kinda gone to that. And I remember, like, looking throu
Yeah. I guess for me, it started in 2017. And back then, I was doing my PhD in Singapore in mostly game theory. And I learned about theory. I thought it was cool. So I told my advisor about it. And my advisor told me that he had just randomly met Vitalik in a in a conference room in an incubator in in Singapore working on some of the designs of of proof of stake and and, yeah, he also thought it was very interesting. So I was still doing my PhD until 2019. But over time, I started getting more and more into the community, went to Defcon, went to more conferences. And when IPLG ended, I applied
Alright. So, yeah, let's now switch to something that I think most people in Ethereum are looking forward to, which is this Pectra upgrade. As far as I understand, and I am not a technical person, so I did my best research, but feel free to correct me if at any point I misspeak. But this Pektra upgrade is about to go live on the is it called Hoodie Testnet or what how do you pronounce that? Yeah.
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